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The Rolling Stones

(1962-)
The Rolling Stones
Mick Jagger (vocals) 1962-
Keith Richards (guitar, vocals) 1962-
Brian Jones (guitar) 1962-1969
Bill Wyman (bass) 1962-1992
Charlie Watts (drums) 1962-
Mick Taylor (guitar) 1969-1975
Ron Wood (guitar, vocals) 1976-
Darryl Jones (bass) 1994-

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Manager Andrew Loog Oldham publicized The Stones by asking "Would you let your daughter marry a Rolling Stone?" He was positioning them as bad boys as opposed to the goody-goody Beatles. Contrary to popular belief, The Beatles and The Rolling Stones were actually friends. Though at the time, The Stones were illustrated as being the anti-Beatles for publicity, the two bands were on very good terms. They even attribute some of their early accomplishments to the other; for instance, The Stones got their first recording contract from Decca on the suggestion of George Harrison to Decca's head man. The Beatles admired the Stones for their refusal to wear the matching stage suits that the Beatles dawned to win affection from the fans, and Brian Jones' ability at playing the harmonica. (thanks, Emily - Philadelphia, PA)
Piano player Ian Stewart, considered the "6th Stone," was not an official member of the group because manager Andrew Loog Oldham felt he didn't fit the Stones image. He died of a heart attack in 1985.
In 1968, The Stones taped a British TV special called Rock and Roll Circus. It featured music and circus performances, with guests Jethro Tull, John Lennon, Taj Mahal, and The Who, among others. Lennon's first performance without the Beatles, it never aired on TV, but was released on video in 1995.
Bill Wyman has a restaurant in London called Sticky Fingers.
Their long hair was considered outrageous in 1963. They took out a Christmas ad in a paper saying "Best wishes to all the starving hairdressers and their families."
Jagger and Richards did a lot of drugs. Brian Jones did enough to kill him, but Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts stayed mostly clean.
The Stones are named after Muddy Waters' "Rollin' Stone Blues." Blues artists like Waters had a strong influence on The Stones.
They almost became a Rock and Roll casualty in 1963 when their van skidded off a bridge, but it didn't flip over. Their road manager and piano player Ian Stewart was driving.
Brian Jones was found dead in his swimming pool on July 3, 1969. The coroner's report listed "death by misadventure." He had major drug problems and left the band a few weeks earlier.
When Mick Taylor left in 1975, The Stones considered Jeff Beck, Wayne Perkins, Havey Mandel, Rory Gallagher, and Peter Frampton before deciding on Ron Wood.
Richards was arrested for heroin possession in 1977. As part of his sentence, he played 2 shows for blind children in Toronto with The New Barbarians, a group he formed with Ron Wood, Stanley Clarke, Bobby Keys, Joseph Modeliste, and Ian McLagan. Richards was facing a long jail sentence but got off easy. He thinks the judge went easy on him after hearing from a blind girl who Richards helped go to Stones shows.
Their 1981 world tour was the first tour to be sponsored. Jovan perfume paid them $4 million. Kimo Kekeahuna-Vail, the Hawaiian Kahuna, shaman and impresario, served as executive producer of the tour and convinced Mick Jagger and The Stones to take on a sponsorship. Kahuna never sponsored another Rock act because, as he said... "How can you top touring with the gods." Kahuna followed up with award winning tours sponsorships with Julio Iglesias/Coca-Cola and then Willie Nelson/Wrangler Jeans, creating the genre of tour sponsorship. (thanks, Kahuna - Maui, HI)
In 1983 Jagger was commissioned to write his autobiography. After the first manuscript, he gave back his advance and quit the project.
Most of their songs were credited to Jagger/Richards. This angered Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman, who did not receive writing credit for their contributions. Ron Wood got occasional credits.
The Stones did not appear as a group at Live Aid, but Jagger did duets with David Bowie and Tina Turner, and Richards and Wood played with Bob Dylan.
They are the highest earning rock band in history. Their concerts have grossed over $750 million.
It is rumored that Bill Wyman coined the term "Groupie" during their 1965 Australian tour.
In 1971, the powers that be behind the production of A Clockwork Orange briefly toyed with the idea of casting Jagger in the lead role as Alex and having the rest of the Stones along as his "droogs." Yeah, that could have been Mick sitting their with his eyeballs propped open screaming "Me glazzies!"
Jagger was knighted in 2002. Richards thought it was very hypocritical of him to accept the honor, since the Stones have always been critical of the British monarchy and English law.
Jagger (on their music): "It's a noise we make. That's all. You could be kind and call it music." (thanks, Brett - Edmonton, Canada)
Before joining The Stones, Brian Jones used the stage name Elmo Lewis. He was in the duo Lewis and Ponds with Paul Jones, who used the name "Paul Pond." Paul Jones was offered the job of Stones lead singer, but turned it down. (thanks, whitney - Houston, TX, for above 2)
In 2002, The Stones played a private concert for a Texas investor named David Bonderman, who also hired John Mellencamp and Robin Williams to perform. The show was in honor of his 60th birthday, and The Stones' fee was $7 million.
They were the headliners of the most-attended concert in Canadian history. They headlined the SARS benefit show in Toronto in July, 2003. Some of the supporting bands in the lineup included AC/DC, Rush, and the Guess Who. (thanks, Kyle - Wingham, Ontario, Canada)
Their famous tongue logo was inspired by the Indian Hindu goddess Kali The Destroyer. It was designed by John Pasche, who was a student at the Royal College of Art in London when he got a gig designing a poster for The Stones 1970 European tour. Mick Jagger was wowed by the poster, so he asked Pasche to create a logo for their new record label. Jagger suggested Kali as a starting point, and Pasche incorporated Mick's mouth into the design. The logo first appeared on the inner sleeve of the Sticky Fingers album. The cover of that album was designed by Andy Warhol, who is sometimes mistakenly credited with creating the lips logo.
Jagger (1983): "I'm totally anti-nostalgia; I never listen to old Rolling Stones records. I'm not really interested in them. They're funny, sometimes, to hear." (thanks, Bertrand - Paris, France)
Mick Jagger and Keith Richards grew up together in Dartford, Kent, in England. They went to the same primary school together (very similar to children's' daycare) but parted when they went on to different grammar schools. They met up again in their late teens at a train station, when Keith noticed Jagger carrying some blues records under his arm. Blues, which were inaccessible in England at the time, were Mick and Keith's mutual passion.
The Stones' most infamous drug bust occurred at Redlands, Keith Richards' English estate. Richards was holding a house party with a large number of guests, of whom was Mick Jagger and his girlfriend at the time, Marianne Faithfull. (George Harrison also attended, but left conveniently before the police arrived.) Mick and Keith were arrested after amounts of LSD and other drugs were found in their possession. They were both sentenced with significant jail time, but their charges were dismissed after a newspaper editor published an article condoning the court for issuing unfairly harsh punishments for a relatively minor offense, with an alleged bias against their growing fame. (thanks, Emily - Philadelphia, PA, for above 2)
They were inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame in January 1989. In his acceptance speech, Jagger honored 2 people who were not presently with the band: Brian Jones and Ian Stewart.
Ron Wood's brother Ted was in the band The Temperance Seven, who had a hit with "You're Driving Me Crazy" in 1961.
Jagger was knighted in 2003 for "services to popular music." (thanks, Bertrand - Paris, France, for above 3)
The Rolling Stones don't go on tour without their snooker table. In addition, the rock stars asked for video games and a ping pong table in their USA '97-'98 rider. For the 2005 "A Bigger Bang" tour the band has dropped video games for watching cricket on satellite or cable TV. The latter rider also reveals what names the rock singers give to their dressing rooms backstage: Mick Jagger's is "Workout," Charlie Watts has "Cotton Club," Ron Wood is in "Recovery" and Keith has "Camp X-Ray."

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Comments:

Wow!!! I must say that if you aren't a Rolling Stones fan you are ripping yourself off. Rolling Stones are the greatest rock and roll band ever!! They are survivors and with the exception of Brian Jones they are all still alive and rockin! Not many bands from the 60's and 70's can say that! The strong survive!!!! Keep on rockin guys!!!!
- Cheryl, London, ON
Lets get real stones fans THE BEATLES gave the stones their 1st hit which was I wanna be your man and when ever Keith or Mick is asked who is bigger or better they won't give a straight answer because they know without the BEATLES there would be no stones and please the BEATLES sang many rock and roll songs and pop songs and blues songs so don't kid yourself and everyone including the stones is compared to the 1 and ONLY BEATLES and I do like the stones but they do not have 1 album that I could or most people could listen to without skipping forward to another song and msot BEATLE albums could be played start to finish without a boring or bad song and that is why they were and will always be voted # 1 and still out sell all others and get more airplay than any other artist in history past or present so join the club and thank some higher being for the BEATLES or you would have no stones
- sgtpepper61, Mesa, AZ
I really don't think it's fair to compare the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. The Beatles (to me at least, this is all just my opinion) always seemed like a more pop oriented band. Their early albums were very 1950s "let's hold hands" bubble gum pop. Eventually, they did discover weed and later LSD, but a lot of the Beatles' songs written by Paul were still quite pop oriented up until the end (like The End for example.) The Stones, on the other hand, have always made more R&B and bluesy music. Take 1966-1969 for example. The Beatles released Revolver, Sgt. Peppers, Magical Mystery Tour, The Beatles, and Abbey Road. The Stones did Aftermath, Satanic Majesties, Beggars Banquet and Let it Bleed. Apart from Satanic, each of the Stones albums is comprised of blues/country blues/R&B songs while the Beatles were doing more psychedelic and pop rock. Two bands. Two genres.
- David, Woburn, MA
"When you are growing up there are 2 institutional places that afect you most powerfully; the church, which belongs to God, & the public library, which belongs to you. The public library is a great equaliser" (Keith Richards-who is widely roumoured to have an extensive libary & be a avid reader)
- diane, Tuscaloosa, AL
You don't have to like the Stones for
me to care, but to me they were the
greatest. Keith and Mick- Mick Taylor
Especially Mick Taylor he was what
Eric Clapton was to Cream as Mick Taylor
was to the Stones. But even after Taylor,
they are still rocking in their 60's
I read in an article back in the 60's
interlaced with hundreds of articles
on the Beatles, how the stones were good,
but they probably wouldn't be around for
more than a couple of years. Well that
makes them the Greatest, longest lasting Flash in the pan band in history. I wonder if the author of that article ever looked back at what
he wrote and regretted writing such miserable
crap. If you want to put down the stones, it
will bring out the fighting side of me.
They are the best
- Steve, Phoenix, AZ
I love you Mick!! The Beatles may be awesome, but the Stones were way sexier.
- Abby, London, United Kingdom
I think that if I thought the Beatles were #1, I would be cruising Beatles sites, not Stones material! And to the one who says that Ozzy also agrees that the Beatles are #1 in his inebriated state, consider the source. You said it yourself. I'd have to be wasted to consider them better than "The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World", myself!
- Sherry, Wilmington, DE
gimme shelter is mind blowingly brilliant i also love honky tonk women,memo from turner,tumbling dice and loads more -i love physical graffiti by zep,exile on main street by the stones and abbey road by the beatles. tho' i like and have owned almost all the stoness led zep and beatles albums etc-i began as kiddy liking the beatles because the beatles are so acessible-old folk -like my parents and little kids like i was liked the beatles harmonious melodies readily-as a kid strawberry fields forever was my favourite -i then became a stones fan when i was a little more rebellious-as a teenager-cos the stones rock in a way the beatles never could-then at age 15 i became a zep fan-i still play and love abbey road which is a masterpiece-i could never live without it and will play it till i die-it never bores me-i dont much play stones stuff anymore -but rank exile on main street as there best and i dont even play all that much zep anymore-but if i do its invariably physical graffitti -easily their best album ever in my opinion-and it isnt boring-the out-of-tune twang of pages guitar means i never get bored of hearing them-there most anthemic song is the rover and whole lotta love which i love-is their most famous as it was covered and used as the top of the pops theme tune for 35 yrs in the uk on tv.
then 25 yrs ago i discovered the cocteau twins-coincidentally-a band robert plant loves -and once u discover the cocteau twins then all other music sounds so crude and ugly by comparison-so they are my favourite band and have been for 25 yrs now-but on the subject of greatest band ever-the most popular and influential-the beatles-are most accessible-most popular and most widely known and loved and have the most successful ever performer and song-writing partnership-paul mc'cartney was worth 900 million dollars or pounds-which is staggering-personally i never liked his solo stuff and thought he was weaker than lennon in the beatles-the stones played to about 1.5 million people in brazil -setting a world record-they had about as many hits as the beatles-and inspired virtually all rockers since 1963 whereas the beatles inspired all popsters since 1962.
zep-they where the prog rock/metal gods who have been imitated by a raft of bands like ac/dc queen etc -the stones were imitated by aerosmith etc and ive seen more jagger impersonators dancing at parties than u can count-i wanted to be mick jagger for 20 yrs myself lol-the beatles have been impersonated by numerous bands also. im just proud they are all english-personally i love nick drake mmmm i even like some american stuff also-like -dylan who is a genius and the hugely influential and wonderful velvet underground.
so how can all u passionate people be so certain of your conviction as to whether the stones or the beatles or led zep are the greatest band ever?its a 3 way tie i think-but in popularist terms its the beatles-in charisma/notoriety/longevity/audience size terms its the stones-and in terms of mass appeal without using singles/tv appearances/videos etc it is led zep-who had 20 million applications for their reformation concert in london a yr ago-which is mind-blowing and more than the stones/u2/bowie/jackson/dylan etc could get between them-in summary its like comparing apples and oranges
- steve, cambridge, United Kingdom
Mick (along with other rock singers) appeared on stage with George of the popular beat combo from Liverpool, and gave a great bluesy rendition of 'O Saw Her Standing There'. A great night was had by all.
- Andrew, London, England
Those of you who think the Beatles are Better then The Stones need to rethink!! The Stones are way better then the Beatles when it comes to Rock n Roll. The First question on here was who was better in Rock n Roll not who was better in general. So stop saying they are Better(Beatles). Stones Kick ASS!! When it comes to what they are none for, the Beatles did love songs and not Rock N Roll were as the Stones did. Both in general are a tie they are both talented bands but in Rock N Roll, STONES!!!!! SORRY BUT THEY WIN BY A MILE!! So those who say that the Stones suck and they aren't good realy need to try listening to some REAL music like the STONES. The better question for all of you to fight about is who is better in Rock N Roll the R
- Laurie, Chula Vista, CA
Don from Pittsburgh: I think John Entwistle should be added to that list of greatest bass guitarists (good call on Mel Schacher though). He amazes me every time I see or hear him play. Still, it's just a suggestion. And if anyone is annoyed by how this has nothing to do with the Rolling Stones (even though now it does), I'd rather stay out of the conversation at the risk of angering everyone here...
- Roy, Granbania, MA
whenever I hear there names or one of there songs my heart just sinks it makes me what to cry it's weird I know but that shows how much I love them.
- ashley, Quincy, IL
I can't see why you Beatles fans spend your time writing as munch as W.Shakespeare. You are just making the Stones greater. I love them both, but the Stones touch my heart deeper.
- juan, Buenos Aires, Argentina
THE BEATLES ALWAYS HAD GEORGE MARTIN AND THE STONES DIDN'T HAD ONE. WHEN THEY WORKED WITH JIMMY MILLER, THEY MADE SOME OF THE BEST ROCK'N ROLL ALBUMS EVER. UNTIL THEN THEIR PRODUCER WAS ANDREW OLDHAM WHO HADN'T ANY IDEA AS MUSICAL PRODUCER. THAT'S WHY THE BEST RECORDINGS IN THEIR EARLY TIMES WERE DONE IN USA WITH THE HELP OF CHESS RECORDS AND JACK NITZCHE. THEY ALSO HAD PHIL SPECTOR ON THE FIRST ALBUM, BUT THEY NEVER HAD A MUSIC FACTORY LIKE ABBEY ROAD STUDIOS AND AN ENGENEER LIKE GEORGE MARTIN WHO TAUGHT THEM A LOT. I THINK THE BEATLES WERE THE BEST POP BAND EVER , BUT WHEN I LISTEN TO BEGGARS BANQUET , LET IT BLEED , STICKY FINGERS AMD EXILE ON MAIN ST. I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE LIVERPOOL BAND IS SECOND IN MY TOP TEN LIST.
- juan, Buenos Aires, Argentina
To Carolyn, above..who profoundly defends The Beatles...and rattles on and on about their lifestyle...and accusing absolutely everyone else of being incorrect, wrong, repeating rumors, perpetuating myths, etc...etc... I'd just like to make 2 points, dear. #1...Despite all the #1's you named about the Beatles' Records...The Rolling Stones have earned more money than ANY band in the world on tour ($750,000,000). That was the point the gentleman you responded to was trying to make. #2. You need to get a life, dear.
- Jim, Miami, FL
Also even Ozzy Osbourne said in an online 2002 Bender Magazine interview that The Beatles Are The Greatest Band To Ever Walk The Earth! He's been a huge fan since he's been a teenager and he says not loving The Beatles is like not loving oxogen! Also,The Beatles even wrote one of The Rolling Stones first hits with the song,I Wanna Be You're Man in late 1963. As for the other ignorant comments like that The Beatles didn't even stay together for 2 decades,well they didn't have to because they did about 50 years worth of innovative,creative,diverse,prolific great critically acclaimed popular songs and albums in just a remarkable 8 year recording career! And music critics as well as brilliant classical composer Leonard Bernstein called John & Paul the most brilliant song writers of the 20th century when they were still a band . As for The Beatles playing live,they sounded pretty good playing live considering that when they were playing in 1963,1964,1965,and 1966 the sound systems back then were very limited and primitive,they only had 100 watt amplifiers,no feedback monitors so they couldn't even hear themselves play and sing,yet they amazingly played in tune and in sync anyway,and at the August 1965 Shea Stadium concert which was as I said the first big outdoor rock concert with over 55,000 fans,they were plugged into the PA system that they announce baseball games with plus the screaming crowds drowing out their great music! Can you imagine The Rolling Stones and The Who playing on these very limited primitive sound systems? They wouldn't have sounded much better! Thats why they gave up touring,because they were serious music artists,composers,and musicians and they wanted their great music to be heard and valued. It would be like Beethoven playing on these limited primitive sound systems and screaming crowds! Also they were now writing music that was too complex to reproduce on stage at that time. On the roof top concert in The Let It Be Film,they sounded great,because by January 1969 the sound systems had improved somewhat(although not anywhere near the 1970's,1980's,1990's and especially today's!) and they had changed and people had changed so there were no more screaming crowds so they could be heard.When I was a teenager I met 3 people who saw The Beatles in concert two of them were teachers who saw them in 1966 and he and she told me they were great,and my cousin saw them at age 16 at The Baltimore Colsieum in 1964 the year before I was born,and she said they were great.Former Kiss guitarist and grammy winning producer Bob Kulick who made the heavy metal Beatles tribute album Butchering The Beatles last year,says in an online interview,that he saw The Beatles at Shea Stadium in 1966 and that he could only make out pieces of the songs because of the screaming,but he could make out the songs Baby's In Black and Paperback Writer and he said they sounded amazing! He also calls The Beatles The Greatest Rock Band Ever! George Harrison at only age 14 would stay up playing his guitar until he got all of the chords exactly right and his fingers were bleeding! And One of The Beatles engineers Geoff Emerick says that in early 1966 when The Beatles were recording John's song I'm Only Sleeping,George Harrison played backwards guitar the most difficult way possible even though he could have taken an easy way,and it took him 6 hours just to do the guitar overdubs! He then made it doubly difficult by adding even more distorted gitars and Geoff says this was all George's idea and that he did all of the playing! Eric Clapton said in a 1992 interview when he and George were asked what they admired about each other during their Japan tour,that George is a fantastic slide guitar player. He and George were very good friends and they obviously admired and respected each others guitar playing and George played guitar on Cream's song Badge. Roger McGuinn of The Byrds says The Beatles used unusual folk rock chords in their early music and that they invented folf rock without even knowing it! He started to play a 12 string guitar after he saw and heard George Harrison playing one in The Beatles great film A Hard Day's Night in early 1964. In an online Eric Clapton interview called,Eric Clapton In His Own Words he says that John Lennon was a pretty good guitar player and he would have known since he played live in concert with John as a member of John's 1969 Plastic Ono Band!

On an excellent site called,The Evolution Of Rock Bass Playing McCartney Style by Dennis Alstrand Stanley Clarke,Will Lee,Billy Sheehan,Sting,George Martin,and John Lennon are all quoted saying what a great,melodic,influential bass guitar player Paul McCartney has always been! The 1992 Rolling Stone Album Guide calls Paul a remarkable bass player and rightfully calls John &Paul the 2 greatest song writers in rock history! Both Phil Collins and Max Weinberg both Beatles fans and both praise Ringo's drumming and Phil Collins says that Ringo's great drumming on A Day In The Life can't even be repeated even by him! Also on Rankopedia The Beatles are # 1 Greatest Rock Band,# 1 Greatest Most Innovative Rock Band,John &Paul are # 1 Greatest Rock Song Writers,John &Paul are on The Greatest Rock Male Vocalist list,and Paul McCartney is # 2 after John Enwistle as Greatest Rock Bass Players,John Paul Jones is # 6,and Bill Wynman is # 20! And on Digitaldreamdoor where many musicians post,The Beatles are # 1 Greatest Rock Artists,John &Paul are # 1 Greatest Rock Song Writers,they are both on The Greatest Rock Male Vocalists list,and Paul McCartney is # 8 out of 100 Greatest Rock Bass Players,John Paul Jones is # 21,and Bill Wynman is # 95! George Harrison is # 54 On The Greatest Rock Guitarists out of over 100.

And there are many music professors teaching music courses at good universities on the brilliance of The Beatles especially of John & Paul,including by award winning music professor and composer Dr.Glen Gass,who has been teaching a course on The Beatles and rock music at Indiana University since 1982. On his web site for his course it says the main purpose of this course is to get students to have a better appreciation of this extraordinary group and their remarkable recordings. Dr.Gary Kendal's Beatles course is the most requested course at North Western University. And a music professor by the last name of Heinonen teaches a Beatles course at JYVASKYLA University in Finland,and the university of California also teaches a Beatles course etc. Also check out Keno's Classic Rock n Roll Site he also runs a Rolling Stones & John Lennon fan site. And he made a Top 10 List and voted and the fans voted. He voted John &Paul # 2 after Bob Dylan as Greatest Rock Song Writers,the fans voted them # 1! He voted Paul McCartney # 2 after John Entwistle as Greatest Rock Bass Player,the fans voted Paul # 3. He voted John Lennon # 2 after Keith Richards as Greatest Rock Rhythm Guitarist,and the fans voted John in a tie with Jimi Hendrix and Brian Jones at # 4! He voted John Lennon # 1 in a tie with Elvis as Greatest Male Rock Vocalist and the fans voted John # 1,he voted Paul # 6 and the fans voted him # 7. Ken says Damn The Beatles were one great group in his review of The Beatlesalbum 1967-1970,and he also says that John on Get Back showed why he should have played lead guitar more often because he did such a good job! He also said that John on their hard rocking great 1968 single Revolution,played one of the first and best acid guitar parts.And he also said that John played a pretty good slide guitar on George's For Your Blue. And he says in his review of The Beatles 1962-1966,that if you don't love or at least like The Beatles and their music than you are not a true rock fan and more than likely will never get it.And Brian Wilson said on a 1995 Nightline TV Beatles tribute show,that Sgt.Pepper is the single greatest album he ever heard,and he played With A Little Help From Friends on the piano and he said I just love this song. He also said he thinks John Lennon &Paul McCartney were the 2 greatest song writers of the 20th century! He also said when he first heard The Beatles great 1965 album Rubber Soul,that he was blown away by it,he said all of the songs flowed together and it was pop music but folk rock at the same time,and this is what he couldn't believe. He said this inspired him to make Pet Sounds. Elton John said in a 1991 CBS morning news show,when he was asked who he musically admires,he said You can taljk about your Rogers & Hammerstein but for the quality of quanity songs that Lennon & McCartney did in that short period of time,they were the 2 greatest song writers of the 20th century! Most music artists want to believe and want the public to believe that *their* the greatest so when they say other music artists are the greatest it really means a lot! The Beatles are also the most covered music artists of all time with everyone from Motown,jazz,classical,and even heavy metal music recording their great diverse music! And in 2001 VH1 had a panel of well known musicans and music critcs,that voted The Beatles The Greatest Rock Band Ever,and in 2004 Rolling Stone did the same thing and several people said on message boards that Rolling Stone had a recent pael poll like this and The Beatles were voted # 1 again and for damn great reasons too! Nobody created as much innovative,creative,quality,critically acclaimed,popular diverse songs and albums in such a short amazing period of time as The Beatles and thats why most people know that The Beatles Are The Greatest Rock Band That Ever Was Or Will Be!!! Oh and A Day's Night is a great pop rock album!!! And even Bob Dylan said decades ago about The Beatles early music,that their chords were outrageous,and the harmonies were wonderful and they were doing things in music that nobody had done before,and music critics of The London Times were praising their interesting and unusual chords that they used even in early songs like She Loves You &I Want To Hold Your Hand. Which were not as simple as they seemed and had clever subtleties in them.Infact Bob Dylan said in a Rolling Stone interview this Spring that he's in awe of Paul McCartney and he said he's the only one he's in awe of. He said that Paul has the melody,he has the rhthym and he can sing the ballad very good,and he can play any instrument.

He also said there were no better singers than John Lennon & Paul McCartney and he said if George wasn't stuck in the shadow behind John & Paul and he said who wouldn't get stuck,he would have emerged as a great song writer in his own right anyway.

And by the way I have read some people saying on message boards that they don't think The Rolling Stones were the best technical musicians,and many even some fans have said they haven't done anything good in 35 years, and that their overrated and I have also found many people saying they hate or don't like The Rolling Stones and many people say the only Rolling Stones song they like is Paint It Black! Oh and by the way,in every major poll of The Beatles vs The Rolling Stones,The Beatles always win as # 1 even on sites and message boards that are not Beatles fan sites! And when we look at the solo career comparison of Mick Jagger's and Keith Richards solo careers with John,Paul & George's,the facts are John Lennon's first brilliant solo album,and his second great album Imagine are rightfully critically acclaimed, and I love John's Walls & Bridges album and Paul McCartney's first solo album McCartney is very good,and he played every instrument all by himself at age 27,and he played so many different instruments great! Wings 1975 Venus & Mars is a great rock album too!

And he and Denny Laine are the only musicians on Paul's great 1973 Band On The Run album,which is critically acclaimed and popular,and he played every instrument by himself again on McCartney 2 in 1979,and most of the instruments on his 1997 Flaming Pie album,and his 2 recent acclaimed popular albums,Chaos And Creation In The Backyard,and Memory Almost Full.And John Paul Jones,David Gilmore,John Bonham & Pete Townsend all played on 2 songs with Paul and Wings on the last Wings album Back To The Egg, in 1979,and they played in the last Wings concert too in December 1979. You know I have found over 50 former Beatles haters on many message boards and web sites that are noe HUGE Beatles fans and many say they are now their favorite band and that they were the Greatest Band Ever! I didn't communicate with these people but they said in their posts that they had a lot of inaccurate misperceptions of The Beatles and they hadn't even heard most of The Beatles great songs and albums!

Most people don't hate The Beatles in the first place,most people of all ages all around the world love or at least like their music,but it's really something for former haters to turn into big fans and it just goes to show how Great The Beatles music is!!!!
- LucyintheSky, Philadelphia, PA
I have to really debunk the nonsense myths and inaccurate things being said on here about The Beatles! First to Ken from Dupont, my point was that it's interesting that Dave Navarro and Frank Marino are both in hard rock bands and they hate The Rolling Stones.I don't hate The Rolling Stones though except for 2 songs. And to the guy who said that The Rolling Stones are richer, well John & George are sadly dead and can't make new music and Paul is still one of the richest rock stars and he was the richest man in showbusiness for decades and he's still in The Guiness World Book of Records since October 1979, where he was given a special reward as the most successful and most covered song composer ever! And Amazon.com lists The Beatles as # 1 selling music artists,The Recording Industry Association Of America lists them as the biggest selling artists ever,Billboard lists them as having more # 1 songs and albums than any other artists in just an 8 year recording career,and on Acclaimed Music.net which compliles many different rock reviews from many different rock critics from decades,The Beatles are rightfully # 1! And some of you really should do your homework about The Beatles true history,work and lives. The Beatles played for 2 years from 1960-1962 8 hours a night in the sleazy strip clubs of Hamburg Germany,wearing black leather pants and jackets,smoking and cursing on stage and taking speed pills to stay awake and play,and they had sex with a lot of young women groupies,some of them strippers. There were also a lot of rough German thugs who came into these clubs,and if The Beatles hadn't played good live for 2 years 8 hours a night they would have beaten the cr*p out of them. Instead The Beatles became the most popular successful group playing in these German clubs,even with all of the competition from other German and English groups playing there. They also played live in the Cavern Club in Liverpool for several years successfully. The Beatles cleaned up image was a fake joke created by their manager Brian Epsten and John hated and resented this the most. The Beatles had tons of young women groupies when they were touring in 1963, 1964,1965, and 1966 some of them were under age. Paul was caught in a hotel room with an underage girl in August 1965 when the police were called and The Beatles were thrown out of the hotel! They also did a lot of drugs they totally lived the same sex drugs & rock n roll as The Rolling Stones,and John Lennon had a lot of traumas in his childhood that messed him up bad,and when he was drunk which was often when he was younger,he got crazy and violent and hit his first wife Cynthia a few times,some other women he had relationships with,and got into a lot of fist fights with men,but thank G*d with the help of Yoko and feminism he changed for the better and he said he regretted the things he did. Paul McCartney had sex at only age 15,in 1957 with a woman older than him,and most 15 year old boys weren't doing that in 1957,John was also sexually involved early with women. The Beatles wrote more than a few songs about sex & drugs and Paul's song on The Beatles great 1968 rock White album,Why Don't We Do It In The Road,was a very blatant perverted song about having public sex in the road!The Beatles were mostly a *ROCK* band,but a very diverse,creative,innovative,and prolific rock band. They wrote many great rock songs and some that were pretty rocking for the times, Paul's I Saw Her Standing There from 1963,John's great You Can't Do That where he plays lead guitar for the first time from early 1964,Paul's great blues rocker She's A Woman from late 1964,Paul's screaming loud rocking I'm Down (which The Beatles performed even louder,harder and with more screaming,at the August 1965 Shea Stadium concert which was the first big out door rock concert with over 55,000 fans) John's I Feel Fine from October 1964 which was the first recorded use of feedback guitar,and one of the first songs with a great rock riff a year *before* The Rolling Stones Satisfaction,Day Tripper,Papperback Writer,She Said She Said,And You're Bird Can Sing,Taxman,which all have a heavy lead guitar sound,and on The White album,John's Yer Blues,Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me & My Monkey,Paul's Birthday,Back In The USSR,George's While My Guitar Gently Weeps,and Paul's Helter Skelter which was as many people have said the first true heavy metal song,and John's great hard rocking 1968 single Revolution,and on the great Abbey Road album John's I Want You She's So Heavy which was also as many have pointed out one of the first heavy metal songs,and his other great rocker on this album,Come Together,Paul's Oh Darling,You Never Give Me Your Money,and the great hard rocking jam of Paul,George & John on the song The End etc! The Rolling Stones wrote some songs that people could call pop,Ruby Tuesday,Lady Jane,She's A Rainbow,As Tears Go By,Waiting On A Friend,Emotional Rescue,Miss You,the whole Sgt.Pepper imitation,Their Satantic Majesties Request,etc and they also were very popular and had many hit songs and albums and released many greatest hits albums.The Rolling Stones were actually very good friends with and fans of The Beatles and Mick Jagger was at 4 Beatles recording sessions & Keith Richards was at 2 of them with him. Mick Jagger was such a big Beatles fan that in May 1967 when The Beatles were recording their song Baby You're A Rich Man,Mick Jagger came and stood on the sidelines just to watch and listen to them record it,and his name is on the tape box because he likely sang at the end verses of the song,and if you listen carefully you can hera him somewhat at the end with them.In an interview that I found a few years ago with Charlie Watts called,Charlie Watts The Drinking Man's Rolling Stone from a 1973 Magazine called,Zig Zag,he says that The Beatles & The Rolling Stones were similar as people,and he said what made The Beatles so great is that they made one great single and one great album after the next!
- LucyintheSky, Philadelphia, PA
Why is everyone fighting over whether the Stones or the Beatles are better? Why does it matter which was BETTER, they both were very, very famous and good. Although the Beatles are my favourite band, I love the Stones too. And you people need to stop calling the Beatles "goody-goodies", whatever made you think that? You need to listen to some of their later music, and stop characterizing them on how they dressed way back in 1963. Although they wore the suits and ties later in their careers too, it wasn't necessarily because they wanted to. They were originally "bad boy rebels", wearing 50's greaser style clothes, back when they started in the late 50's/early 60's. Their manager, Brian Epstein, got them to change to suits and ties to make their image seem more "clean-cut".
But I know this is a Stones page, so let me say-the Stones rock!
- Mary, London
All you have to do is look at how rich the Rolling Stones are compared to the Beatles. The Rolling Stones are the 4th Riches celebrities none of the Beatles even made top 10. If net worth is any indicator of success and value as an artist then the Rolling Stones win hands down
- joe, Idaho, MO
Will you stop comparing the Beatles to the Rolling Stones?
The Beatles made pop/rock and the Rolling Stones made blues/rock 'n' Roll ... It's like comparing Michael Jackson to Prince ... or David Bowie to Queen ... They're both equally good! STOP THE FIGHT!
- Deatzo, Nowhere, Belgium
One of the greatest bands ever!!! No question. No dispute.
- Ian, Lethbridge, Canada
You know why The Beatles are classed as influential, because every band that has been influenced by them has lasted about five years...get it? It is true but. Oasis, Jet (one album), almost every brit-pop band. If I asked any kid today at my school, who they like better our of Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, they would obviously say AC/DC, then Led Zeppelin, not many kids have really heard of the, as such, but if they sat down and listened to Led Zeppelin IV or any early work from them, the next day they'll go out and buy a guitar. Same with AC/DC, most first learnt riffs are AC/DC songs. Anyone and I mean anyone who isn't the least bit into rock music likes almost any AC/DC song, atleast there big ones. But if I asked the, about the Beatles or the Stones, they would say NO! The Beatles and the Stones were money makers not influencers, what is the fuss over the Beatles influence, love their songs but not their influence.
- atsve, Cairns, Australia
No matter what anyone says, The Beatles had pop songs and the Rolling Stones had Blues songs or at least Blues Rock/pop songs. The Beatles will always be a more talented band in a commercial and influential sense but when it comes to making people dance, the Rolling Stones kick ass, out of these two band atleast. Here is my list: 1.Led Zeppelin/ACDC (can't decide)2.Oasis 3. The Who 4. Gunsn'Roses 5. Green Day
- atsve, Cairns, Australia
Keith Richards is invincible. Hehe.
- Shelby, the dark side
And atsve, Cairns, Australia, I disagree. I enjoy Led Zeppelin. They are great. But when you say songwriting, it is both music and lyrics. I feel the Stones were much better songwriters and personally like the music they composed over Led Zeppelin. And when did this become a contest? It's music. You will like what appeals to you. If someone likes the Stones over the Beatles or vice versa, get over it. IMO, they were all great.
- Jim, Philadelphia, PA
Nick Navarro? Jane's Addiction? Did you mean Dave Navarro? Well John Frusciante dislikes his guitar work when he was with RHCP. Everyone has their opinions, even tools like Dave Navarro.

And Marino who? Yes, his opinion matters more because he was in Mahogany Rush. Get real. No one cares about his opinions on the Stones.

And I saw Navarro wearing a Stones shirt on one of those stupid VH1 shows. He either doesn't dislike them as much as you say, or is a moron who wears a band's merchandise that he hates.

By the way, the Stones rock and always will.
- Jim, Philadelphia, PA
When I use Ctrl-F on the Beatles page and look for 'Stones', I get 4 results. When I do the same thing on this Rolling Stones page, looking for 'Beatles', I get 43 results. Conclusion: Stones fans are much more concerned about the Beatles-Stones "competition", then Beatlesfans. It's something that stikes me all the time, and this little test confirms it.
- Tanya, Rotterdam, Netherlands

Tanya have you ever thought that it could be Beatles fans coming on this board and voicing their opinion, about the Stones..Beatles thing. It seems to me that Beatles, and other bands, fans are more concerned about the Stones than the other way round
- Stephen, The Toon, England
I've waded through all these comments and I'm not impressed with those of you who think that one band is better than the other. It's all down to personal preference and taste. The Beatles bigger than the Stones, then Led Zep, AC/DC and other groups fans having their say. I grew up, with the Stones and the Beatles. The Beatles were portrayed by the press in UK as 'loveable' Liverpool moptops. Andrew Loog Oldham decided to portray the Stones as the 'bad lads' an astute move. On one hand the good guys, the Beatles on the other the Stones. One thing that never happened, in the UK, is that they went head to head on release dates for their records. One one occasion the Stones went head to head with John Lennon. The Stones were number 1, in the UK, for 6 weeks Lennon number 2. That doesn't prove a thing. The Stones and The Beatles,together, recorded a fantastic cover version of 'Drift Away' Doby Gray (apologies if If spelt the name wrong.) It was never released.
I've always been a 'tied and died' Stones fan. I've grown old with them In my OPINION they truly are the greatest band in the world.
- Stephen, The Toon, England
Oh yeah, Frank Marino and NICK Navarro? Two MAJOR influences in rock n' roll. I'd sooner listen to Dan Marino and Jaime Navarro.
- Ken, Dupont, PA
Frank Marino of the hard rock group Mahagony Rush says in two online interviews that he has always hated The Rolling Stones but he still liostens to The Beatles,Jimi Hendrix etc.And on A Jane'a Addiction fan site Jane's Addiction guitarist Nick Navarro says in Guitar World in 1991 and 1996 says he's always hated The Rolling Stones and he always will and will never put on a Rolling Stones record!
- LucyintheSky, Philadelphia, PA
The Rolling Stones are the best band ever, no doubt about it. No other band comes even close. People who say they hate them have never heard them before.
- ptlover, none ya, KS
Let me try and settle something we in the world of music are torn on... The Stones vs The Beatles. This fued is older than me, and should be settled once and for all. Without the Beatles the Stones wouldn't have been an awesome band, so please give credit where credit is due. But without the Stones music would basically suck so don't get me started... great lyrics, beats, songwriting. all i got to say is Sympathy for the Devil, Honky Tonk Women, Satisfaction, and You Can't Always Get What You Want.
- Matt, Cherry Hill, NJ
Well i think we can ALL agree on one thing....
"Its Only Rock n Roll"
I agree that no one knows who the greatest band is.
And i have my likes and dislikes..
But really guys..
Its only rock n roll
And we all like it.
So just chill, and enjoy the music
- Ruby, London
Stones/Beatles/Stones/Beatles/Stones/Beatles
You peeps should put some clothes on and leave your house now and again;)
- Dean, Edmonton, Canada
A bands popularity does not depend on there album sales only. It depends on there concerts and play on radio stations. The Stones are doing very well in those respects. I wonder why the first letters of my words are being chopped off. Sorry about that first post. I sure it looks weird, and the spelling is terrible.
- Stefanie, Rock Hill, SC
Oh, by the way... while The Stones are a great band, they simply don't compare to The Beatles.
- Allen, Bethel, AK
I wish all these stupid sub-urban girls would quit wearing Rolling Stone shirts. You can simply tell that they havne't listened to them.
- Allen, Bethel, AK
And thatnks, atsve, Cairns, Australia, for bringing it out that you can be a fan of the Rolling Stones and AC/DC at the same time. Musically, theyre two different spectrums, and the Rolling Stones were already doing well when AC/DC started in 1973. I dont think everyone has to argue the age-old Beatles vs Stones, because I cant decide either :)
- Mleissa, Wasaga Beach, Canada
But that would depend on your tastes. I dont think anyone's trying to convert anyone here.
- Mleissa, Wasaga Beach, Canada
That dude who has made the 4th members/users comment, Patrick from Quincy, Led Zeppelin were far better songwriters than the Rolling Stones. They werer extremely diverse musicians.
- atsve, Cairns, Australia
I mean ACDC sold 3.57 million per album. LOL sorry.
- atsve, Cairns, Australia
The Rolling Stones had 50 albums and sold 61 million copies in the US. Thats only an average of 1.22 million copies sold per album. When you take out all their double albums and half the sales you get like 950,000 copies per album for an average. Thats crap. Led Zeppelin however sold on average about 9 million per album. The Beatles around 2 or 3 million per album. ACDC sold 2.57 million copies per album on average. So basically a bands populatiry comes down to their album sales, The Stones sucked.
- atsve, Cairns, Australia
The Beatles are obviously no.1 so lets leave them out because hey they were far more popular in their time, once, they took all 5 top spots on the Billboard Hot 100 at once.

Led Zeppelin are the obvious 2nd. They made concert records in their time and would probably have outsold the Beatles if they had gone for another 5 or 10 years. The were the kings of hard rock and blues rock. They were extremely diverse musicians in their own right. They could tackle any genre they wanted.

The Rolling Stones are probably not the
"!!BEST!!" band for no.3 postition but they are by far the best touring band. They are kings of rock for sure but aren't my favourite. (None of these bands are in my favourite order but in common sense order LOL).

ACDC probably would tie with Rolling Stones because they may not out tour them but they ravage them in album sales. I mean most of the Stones album were double albums and they had so many albums. ACDC are kings of rock in their own right, they should be no.3.

Black Sabbath are pioneers with Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple and werer amazing, enough said.

U2 probably deserve no.5 but Black Sabbath were to influential. U2 have very prolific instrumental and synthesising skills and to outsold the Stones. They out earn the Stones aswell and probably out tour them nearly, maybe just less ticket sales.

Deep Purple were the influential ones along with Sabbath and Zeppelin, but werent BIG like Acca Dacca so the deserve a stable no.7.

ACDC probably deserve to take the Stones nspot but I have decided to miss that.
- atsve, Cairns, Australia
Hands Down!!!!: The Stones are the greatest Rock-n-Roll band ever. No one even comes close. The beatles are fun and talented, but more of a pop band. Zep is great, but hardly had the songwriting chops of Mick-n-Keef. I don't even wanna get started on the folks ranking AC/DC up there. Also, BTO???? C'mon. Here are just 5 wonderful Stones songs that aren't exactly considered "big hits". 1. Winning Ugly 2. Fingerprint File (great funk groove) 3. Undercover of the Night (greatest bass line I've ever heard) 4. Let Me Go (punk sound that is pure Stones) 5. Moonlight Mile (simply a gorgeous song)
- Patrick, Quincy, IL
its funny the first comment "The most overrated band of all time. - Niko, Davis, CA" ahhahahha thats not true u people make a big deal about the Beatles...they aren't that great.
- Dan, D, CA
the beatles and the rolling stones are actually aliens! the greatest band af all time was and still is the pretty things
- allan, brisbane, Australia
Ken. All of the Beatles did take drugs.
- Stefanie, Rock Hill, SC
"The Stones' most infamous drug bust occurred at Redlands, Keith Richards' English estate. Richards was holding a house party with a large number of guests, of whom was Mick Jagger and his girlfriend at the time, Marianne Faithfull. (George Harrison also attended, but left conveniently before the police arrived.) " -------Is someone trying to infer that George Harrison was a Narc, man? Ringo maybe, but never George, man.
- Ken, Dupont, PA
The only who played at both concerts was Phil Collins, Jagger and Bowie at Live Aid???? mmmmmm, they had a video Dancing in the Streets but never a duet at the concert Live Aid... This Video was played 4 times on it.
- Ricardo, Mexico, Mexico
WRONG, totally Wrong man!!! Jagger did duet with Tina Turner at Live Aid USA, never mind with David Bowie who played in England.
- Ricardo, Mexico, Mexico
More popular does not equal more talented.
- Ken, Dupont, PA
Okay, I am saying this out to the people who are saying the Stones are better simply because they lasted longer. It's not about the quantity of years that a band is around. It's about the QUALITY of years that a band is around. The Rolling Stones have always played second fiddle to The Beatles. The Beatles are STILL more popular, despite the fact that The Beatles broke up years ago and The Stones are still around. One time, I conducted a poll on the Internet to see who was better. The Beatles VS. The Rolling Stones. The Beatles got 80% of the votes. The Beatles will always be better! The Rolling Stones are indeed one of the greatest bands ever, but The Beatles are still better! Always has been that way, and it always will be!
- Ian, Lethbridge, Canada
Keith on Keith.....very cool!
- Ken, Dupont, PA
The Stones vs. The Beatles. Well, first of all, they were friends. In the early days the Stones looked up to the Beatles. In the later 60s John Lennon wanted the Beatles to be more like the Stones. He wanted less of the lovey-dovey McCartney crap and more good ol' rock and roll like the Stones were playing. Obviously the Stones are still going and the Beatles stopped 36 years ago. The reason for the Stones' longevity is Keith Richards. Rock and roll is the man's entire life. No Keith=No Stones. He is the very definition of a rock star and the coolest mf'er to ever walk the earth.
- Keith, Front Royal, VA
The Beatles are definitely a rock n roll band but come on people, we all know the greatest is FLEETWOOD MAC!
- Rick, humboldt, IA
The Rolling Stones are one of the greatest bands. Yes, the Beatles are good too, but the Stones have been together for over forty years (and they still kick ass). They are not overrated, in fact, the Beatles are way more overrated.
- Chris, Sunnyvale, CA
Why do so many of you think that the stones are overrated when they are clearly one of the greatest (if not the greatest) rock n roll bands ever. In my opinion Led Zeppelin are the only band close to touching the stones, though the beatles are amazing, but I would hardly call them a rock band.
- David, Merseyside, England
first of all let's get things straight here the rolling stones our great simply one of the most greatest bands to be put toughther to create this wonderfull music they have blessed our ears into our hearts with also ya know paint it black jumpin jack are all great you know but other songs are great to "far away eyes" "Sweet virginia" STARF--KER are some good licks they got but they're such a good band after all these years i saw em in november 05 at angel stadium and they still got just get it straight they're great they are rock and roll period
- daniel, west covina, CA
Definitely no the most overrated bane of all the time. Most people who say that listen to rap. And in my opinion, the Rolling Stones top the Beatles. The Rolling Stones have endured almost 50 decades, half a century, 45 years!!! Not t3h Beatlez0rz.
- Nathan, Chaunceyville, United States
Many of you are saying AC/DC is better than Pink Floyd?
- Ashley Jade, Cleveland, GA
Jakob is right on the money. I've seen the Stones in concert 17 times, and they are still by far the World's Greatest Rock 'N' Roll Band!
- Ken, Dupont, PA
Yeah alright, the beatles were the best. but i have a list of the best ever bands.
1) beatles
2) rolling stones
3) Led Zeppelin
4) AC/DC
5) The Who
6) The Guess Who
7) Bachman Turner Overdrive
oh yeah, and Alex from Newcastle Sympathy for the devil is AWESOME!!! How can u not like it ?!?!?!?!?!
- Joel Schmendrick, dublin, Ireland
maya, I registered specifically so I could respond to you calling the Beatles goody goodies. The "I want to hold your hand" style was only at the beginning of their career. Their songs became much different, pretty quickly. Overall, I don't think they are remembered for their matching suits and cute early songs as much as they're remembered for being revolutionaries. Pretty foolish comment
- Sam, Boston, MS
I don't think anyone can be called the Greatest. But what pisses me off is when you ask people who is The Greatest Rock band ever and they say The Stones and they don't know any songs by them or heard them. No one can be the greatest. Personally I like Zeppelin alot better. I think The Beetles had more influence then The Stones. Personally I do think The Stones are overrated. I am not saying they sucks because they do kick ass but they are not as good as some people make them. That might have to do with alot of people not even hearing them and saying that. Personally I like The Eagles style and msuic more then anyone else. But some people like The Stones more. I respect that now. But NO ONE can be called the greatest. Maybe most infulencial. But I don't think anyone should complain about a band or the style of music or how much a band sucks because that is yor taste. I don'r even want to start with how many people who haven't heard Zeppelin and think they are Metal. I would say Beetles most infulencial but no one is the greatest.
- Mike, Winnipeg, Canada
the stones aint chauvinists and the beatles are goody goody i mean i wanna hold ur hand?!?!
- maya, cal, United States
I'm going to the Stones in January it's so awesome! Has anyone else been to one of their concerts? I don't know what to expect. Anyway The Stones rock and so do the Beatles so stop comparing them.
- Dan, Lee, NH
I'd just like to say, I love the Beatles & I love the Stones. I just went to one of the Stones shows on the 2005 tour and Mick Jagger was AMAZING! at 62 years old he runs around and jumps around like he did in the 60's and they sang with just as much energy as Mick had on stage. It was awesome. For the critics who keep making their stupid remarks when they do reviews. You should feel really foolish! I mean come on now how can you put down a band that is a living legend. Not to mention here we are in 2005 and these guys are in their 60's and draw in the crowds like they did in the 60's. That say's it all as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks for playing "As Tears Go By" Mick : - )
I can just imagine what the critics will have to say about that! I say ____ em.
- Kelly, San Jose, CA
To Bobby: The Rolling Stones were COPYING almost everything The Beatles did. When The Beatles released Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, The Rolling Stones did Their Satanic Majesties Request. But another Beatles album, Magical Mystery Tour, pound it to the ground.

You want Beatles rockers? Try Helter Skelter, Revolution, Yer Blues, Birthday, Come Together, Back to the USSR, I am the Walrus, and many others. The Rolling Stones are NO match to The Beatles!
- Patrickman, Makati City, Other
Bobby, Cleveland, United States....The Beatles a goody goody pop band??? Sure their first albums were poppish but they are all great songs but mabye you should listen to Revolver, Sgt.Peppers, Abbey Road, etc....Ever hear of Helter Skelter, Revolution, Dont Let Me Down? just to name a few of many many good ROCK songs The Beatles wrote. Get your facts strait.
- Kevin, San Antonio, TX
Whoa whoa whoa. Mark Perth,support your own boys from down under!! The Rolling Stones ROCK,but AC/DC rocks too! AC/DC toured with The Rolling Stones. AC/DC is not the least bit talentless,Angus Young is a guitar god,and they are in the Rock&Roll Hall Of Fame,along with The Stones. So,all I'm tryin' to say,is how in God's name can you diss AC/DC when they rock so good!? I think The Rolling Stones are quite possibly the best band ever. How could you people think they are overrated?? Mick Jagar has been singing since day one,1962,and still touring in 2005. Can you say determination!? If anyone has any say on what I just said: packer__backer@hotmail.com With two underscores.
- Chris, Rock City, SD
Even though my favorite band is the Beatles my favorite song at the moment is by the Stones (why is the Beast of Burden page so empty?!). I don't care if the Beatles were the "good guys" and that the Stones were the "bad guys" I just feel that the Beatles, in 1 decade, covered more ground than the Stones could ever in 4. I bet that if Harrison and Lennon hadn't died we'd still be hearing Beatle hits Rapid Fire.

This is my list:
1.Beatles
2.Rolling Stones
3.Yardbirds/Zeppelin
- Kendall, thomasville, GA
I love the rolling stones. They are what bands should try to be.
- Jim, Philadelphia, PA
When I use Ctrl-F on the Beatles page and look for 'Stones', I get 4 results. When I do the same thing on this Rolling Stones page, looking for 'Beatles', I get 43 results. Conclusion: Stones fans are much more concerned about the Beatles-Stones "competition", then Beatlesfans. It's something that stikes me all the time, and this little test confirms it.
- Tanya, Rotterdam, Netherlands
Rock mutated from Blues - and the Stones (Janis, Jimi, and Carlos) did that. Rolling Stones are Rock & Roll. "Gimme Shelter" is the epitome of Rock
- David, Los Angeles, CA
The Rolling Stones are an awsome band. I dunno who it was but someone was talking about a top ten list on here and I agree that the Rolling Stones should be in the top ten. Although Black Sabbath and AC/DC are both AWSOME bands also. The Stones started in '62 and I think there gonna keep on going untill they can't anymore. P.S. AC/DC's and Black Sabbath's songs don't sound the same. Jumping jack flash,the Stones are a gas.
- Chris, Rock City, SD
This site is awesome. Thanx
- katie, Bejing, China
1. The Beatles
2. The Rolling Stones
3. Bob Dylan
All three of them have completely changed music and the way people think. Each of them were influnential in different ways, and they'll all have an important role in music history.
- Jack, St. Paul, MN
the rolling stones, the beatles, the doors, AC/DC, black sabbath...blah blah blah.
none of those bands are better than the other, the all played fantastic music, but you can't be biast and pick just one.

(but if you had to, the beatles kick so much ass)
- julie, chicago, IL
You guys have got to be kidding me. I don't know why, in basically all of the bands lists on this page, I see ACDC and Black Sabbath always in the top ten. Please, the stones put both of those bands to shame. And, all of ACDC's songs sound alike, as do all of Sabbath's songs.
- Steve, New York City, NY
Having grown up to both the Rolling Stones and the Beatles, also seeing both bands play(the Beatles in 66 and the Stones in 96)The Beatles were by far the greatest.Don't get me wrong, the Stones are a great band but they just couldn't match the Beatles
- Steve, Toronto, Canada
the stones are very good
they have a blues touch to them
i used to think that they were dumb
but then i just litsened to brown sugar nad fell in love with it
- micah, huntington beach, CA
Beatles...Rolling Stones...Led Zeppelin....and all ! Well cant mere judge them just based on their popularity....I think that Beatles played mostly soft good loveable stuff thats why they were so popular ..mostly among the girls ...they used to go crazy for them they were never and real rock and roll band...rock means rebellion man going against everything which they never did they were just sweet.Then comes The Rolling Stones who were just the rock band which hada true meaning of Rock and Roll.They played mostly real rock and roll nothing sweet about them they were the real bad boys contrasting the Beatles.Led Zeppelin on other hand had a different style ...firtly they had guitar riff which gave rise to metal they experimented with many styles like Indian, British Folk, etc...they were very Classy...And if we are talking abt rock.....so there is band Pink Floyd.....yea evryone knows it.Look at them ..Pink Floyd....Rock as Art....remember Dark Side of the Moon ...it spent more than 15 yrs mostly continous on charts and again its still there is Pop Catlogue chart...what can we say about them? Simply outstanding.What About The Doors ...There can never be another Jim Morrison.Well in other words we cant judge all bands on just one point they are all good and good for all !
- Bobby, Cleveland, United States
alex from newcastle austrailia...i totally agree, the stones r decent but god i love Zeppelin more than anything else!!!!!!!
- pat, westmont, NJ
What's the deal with all the Stones bashing here? People can say all they want but there is no doubt the Stones have been one of the most (maybe thee most) popular bands of the century.

"If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all." - Bambi
- Tyler, Marengo, IL
The beatles and Stones played it all and played it well, Rockabilly,blues Psychedelic,hard rock,love songs. You name it. Beatles were more creative and innovative (experimentally the first).. Stones did Blues and rockabilly better than beatles and most everyone else. CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET SOUVENIRS FROM MID 1970's TOUR FEATURING EAGLE WITH AIRLINE WINGS FOR A LOGO???Nkalodimos@aol.com
- nick, chicago, IL
The Stones are awesome. Mick Jagger is one of the greatest singers ever. Most awesome Stones songs: Brown Sugar, Sympathy for the Devil, Honky Tonk Women, Jumpin' Jack Flash. Right on with the band lists, by the way: 1. The Beatles, 2. Led Zeppelin, 3. Rolling Stones, 4. AC/DC, 5. Pink Floyd, 6. Queen, 7. Jimi Hendrix, 8. The Who, 9. Black Sabbath, 10. Van Halen
- David, Pasadena, CA
Ist "Bohemian like You" nicht der beste Stones-song, der nicht von den STONES ist??? Dandys rule!!!!
- ZiaJak, bloomington, IN
After making a huge search in internet, I couldnt get any conclusion about who (really) designed the first Rolling Stones logo. Andy Warhol, John Pasch, Ruby or God knows who !

So, please... Some one could tell me or indicate me any site where I could discover the true?

Any news, please... send me an email: rfsouza@yahoo.com

Thank you all !
- Renato, Floripa, Brazil
Come on people, the Beatles vs. Rolling Stones battle is so old.
- Liam, Campbell River, Canada
i heard that the tongue/lips logo was based on a caricature of jaggers mouth.
anyway stones rock. beatles are cool but not as good as the rolling stones. Led Zep come close and only early AC/DC
- jen, perth, Australia
Lets face it, when it comes down to the nuts and bolts of music, it's the Stones and Beatles. I am the biggest Stones fan in the world, although I love the Beatles as well. These are two different bands with two different styles. The Beatles did amazing things for the small time they were together and all those great things they did are still evident in todays music technology and influence. But when it comes to Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll, it was the Stones who produced the first band to have a lead singer, a rebellious attitude personally and in their music, sex starved rock singers, and ultimately Keith Richards who has been a template for any guitar player looking for that "partied out/ rock and roll" persona. They both deserve the equal credit.
- Danny, Your Town, IA
THEY ARE VERY OVERRATED(EVEN THOUGH I LOVE THEM)and satisfaction is the most overrated song ever...the beatles are better too.
- AAK, BRENTWOOD, CA
the stones put out some amazing records. but, they put out too much crap as well. Best Bands? 1. Beatles. 2.Zeppelin (same problem as stones near the end) 3. Stones 4. Pink Floyd 5. The Who 6. Queen 7. Cream 8.Doors 9. jimi hendrix experience 10. AC/DC 11. Ramones 12. Velvet Underground 13. Kinks 14.Sex Pistols 15. The Animals
- C.J., Tunkhannock, PA
I dont know what all this is about the beatles being the good clean wholesome ones, and the stones being so much more bad ass. First of all, they all started out dressing all clean looking, simply for publicity. Eventually, they both changed. John Lennon was completely a bad ass neurotic crazy freak, with a hot temper, who had twisted songs, and did lots of heroin, and other serious drugs. Ringo, started out as a gangster in Liverpool,who was supposively very intimidating. They all started out as working class Men in liverpool, where as the stones were upper middle class rich white art school kids. Musically, the lyrics of the stones changed to becoming much more bad ass, as time went on, mostly after the beatles broke up. Im not saying one band is worse than the other, they are just both very different, and equally bad ass.lol.
- Zac, Los Angleles, CA
Rogues Gallery:Best singers---Paul Rodgers,Jim Morrison,Greg Allman,Mick Jagger,Janis Joplin,Bon Scott,Roger Daltry,Warren Haynes,John Lennon,PaulMcartney,Bruce Springsteen and B.B.King.Best bass players---Jaco Pastorious,Stanley Clarke,Tony Levin,Trey Gunn,Chris Squire,Tommy Shannon,John Paul Jones,John Glascock and Mel Shaecher. Best Drummers---Billy Cobham,Buddy Rich, John Bonham,Bill Bruford,Keith Moon,Neil Peart,Jai Johnny Johnson(Jaimo)Butch Trucks,Tony Williams and Pat Mastelloto. There you have it. IMHO,Period.
- Don, Pittsburgh, PA
I've made a list of who I think are the 20 greatest rock bands ever, which I've posted on the Led Zeppelin page. Here it is again: -
1.The Beatles
2.Led Zeppelin
3.AC/DC
4.The Rolling Stones
5.The Who
6.The Ramones
7.Nirvana
8.Black Sabbath
9.Queen
10.Metallica
11.The Clash
12.Pink Floyd
13.Cream
14.The Yardbirds
15.The Doors
16.The Sex Pistols
17.Aerosmith
18.U2
19.Guns N' Roses
20.Van Halen
- Tom, Trowbridge, England
This is the best band of all time next to Led Zeppelin and the Eagles. Just so everyone knows.
- Nick, Swanville, MN
Greatest Musician of the 20th Century: Louis Armstrong
Greatest Group: Buddy Holly & the Crickets (Remember, he wrote all his own songs?...HE influenced the Beatles!... had acoustic guitars, changed rock music in BIG ways before the Beatles even came along. They stood on his shoulders, pretty much.)
Greatest Popular Style Influence: The Rolling Stones
My Favorite? ... I love the Beatles...
- mike, berkeley, CA
I don't really think you can call anyone the "greatest" for any other reason than the degree that they influenced the most other artists or the world of music in general.
This Stones vs. Beatles thing has been going on ever since both bands were popular in 1964 and the Stones introduced themselves as "The Greatest Rock'n Roll Band in the World!" and it's kind of interesting to compare because of their similar careers...
Paul Mc Cartney is the first to say that at one time the Beatles were just one of a thousand bands hoping it would be them who broke through and in the final analysis, he didn't know WHY it was them who succeeded: "It was something outside the music. I went way beyond that!" that caused them to be as popular as they were.
I think what the Stones were trying to do at first was to produce authentic sounding rhythm and blues music. Someting that sounded like American music.
I believe they did THAT better than the Beatles. But then, the Beatles really weren't trying to do that. They were putting their own mark on everything and their music was more along the lines influenced by artists like Roy Orbison ("From Me To You") and Buddy Holly ("I'll follow the sun") and even when they did a Chuck Berry song "Roll Over Beethoven" they were trying to put their own style stamp on it.
The Stones moved beyond just blues and became more like the Beatles as they would use whatever contemporary musical influences were around at a given time and try to incorporate them into their music. After the rhythm and blues thing, the got into Donovan style with "Lady Jane" (remmeber "Guinevere" from "Sunshine Superman"?) and used marimbas ala "Stop in the Name of Love" on "Under My Thumb" and afew tunes on "Between the Buttons"... then the Band and Dylan were a dominant style after that and the Stones did "Beggar's Banquet" all the way where they did reggae with "Black and Blue" (a commercial bomb) and funk with "It's Only Rock'n Roll"; one of only two real rock'n roll songs on the record.
The Beatles sound is still influencing people to this very day, although I don't think Mc Cartney by himself has been nearly as big. IN my opinion though; I'd say the Stones had more people trying to incorporate elements of their music than anyone from about 1970 till maybe 1982. Even today... let's face it: Aerosmith is a Stones knock off; not only the music but the style... all that.
But as we see here: all musicians borrow. All musicians rewrite songs that have previously been done with maybe only a little chord tweaked here or there and different lyrics.
Who had the biggest or longest lasting influence?
We'll ALWAYS be talking about that. That's one of the things that makes it all fun!!!
- mike, berkeley, CA
You know, this is just a comment. But, I am sick tried of all the criticizing of the Beatles. They are not all goody-goody. I think John Lennon is the coolest beatle, because he has a bit of a temper on him. I mean, the Beatles did have a number songs with songs in opposition of their happy tunes. And what's wrong with being happy?!

But, why rank the Stones over the Beatles? I love the Stones a whole lot, but they are chauvinists, and lots of their lyrics are just plain rude. Although, I do really like their music, and some of the songs' lyrics. But, I just wanted to say that.
- Brandon, Seattle, WA
Alex from newcastle has it right on here's mine:
1- Led Zeppelin
2- The Beatles
3- Black Sabbath
4- Van Halen
5- AC/DC
- John, Philadelphia, PA
The Stones are my favourite band.

But Brian Jones did NOT leave the Rolling Stones. He was kicked out by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards due in part to his inability to control his drug and alcohol intake.

Brian died in very suspicious circumstances and and it is now widely believed that he was murdered. I believe this to be true.

BRIAN JONES WAS MURDERED
- Katie, Australia
Andy Warhol did NOT design the tongue logo used on Tumblin' Dice. Ruby Mazur did. Warhol did the Sticky Fingers cover.
- Jennifer, Los Angeles, CA
Ah, The Beatles are number one, without a doubt. In any survey ever done The Beatles are always #1.
- Shirley, Ocean, NJ
The Stones rule, plain and simple. No other band has put out so many great tunes and has done it for so long. The Kinks are Number 2.
- Ken, Dupont, PA
I can't stand any song but sympathy for the devel, this band irritates me something horrid. As for the greatest band ever? I'll have to take that as an attempted joke Led zeppelin 1st, Beatles 2nd.
- Alex, newcaslte, Australia
The most overrated band of all time.
- Niko, Davis, CA
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